You can comlete the game easily without leveling up once. share. Beat the game once and came back once again but this time quit around disc 2. - Enemies level up exactly as you do. Whiskeydiver. You have the power, the position, and the motive to do it." - Vilurum Xaren, leader of the happy turtles, and knowitall. Compatibilités des G-Forces Capacités des G-Forces. The problem is that Level Scaling tends to work against the player; enemies tend to grow stronger at a far faster rate than the player, making it so that gaining levels actually makes you relatively weaker. Don't quite understand Zell side quest ... What would you like to see in a proper remake? As long as I can ultimately take them out of the equation. Would I not want some challenge? For me it`s always fun to level up your party to overcome any obstacle in a given game, so this game always negated one of the reasons i like JRPGs so much. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. Thanks in advance. And monsters level up based on your own level but have a better scaling. Dec 6, 2013 @ 12:14am Stop leveling up your characters. Also, how do you not level? Perhaps in the pre-battle AI section in ProudClod? Am I the only one who hates level scaling in rpgs? leveling is always the same number of exp which is 1000. just in ff8. Posts: 16; Level Scaling in FFVII « on: 2015-08-09 19:09:12 » Is it possible to put anything into an enemy/boss AI to allow for level scaling? So, from a regular level up perspective, it benefits more your enemies than you if you level up. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 7248789. Vergil's Downfall(Blind) Episode 05 - Own Shadow - http://youtu.be/Z12gTrgneg0. Old-school approach: Red and blue bats would be found in different places. For the OP FF8 is probably the easiest game in the serie, at least for me. While this is the best way to play the game, the remaster isn’t on the same level as the ones FFVII and IX received. My only actual complaint with FF8 is how the enemies get stronger as you do. Anonymous 01/02/21(Sat)22:34:35 No. Your level isn't that important its your junction setup that can either break the game or have you screaming in frustration. its so much fun and FF8 is one of the only games you can even do this effectiv FF2 FF8 and FF10 have (in my opinion) the most innovative and exiting character developing systems #6. There's level scaling in FF? But their stats don't increase as slow as your characters'. Now, i have to admit, the reason why i skipped FFVIII until now is the level scaling enemies. That’s sad since this is arguably the best looking of the PS1-era FF titles. ~Garland~, Final Fantasy 8: A Weird, Wonderful Game. i have beaten ff8 before on the ps1, but this time i want to try to do the thing where you just stay low level and use the diablos "no enocunter" thing to avoid random enocunters and stay low level...but basically how do you do that? © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Junctioning scaling will easily surpass level scaling even if you grind pretty heavily, especially if you visit extra areas/bosses to get things like Tornado or Triple to junction. Just draw magic and then run away? Each card has four numbers (known as ranks) placed in top left corner; each number corresponds to one of the four sides of the card. Some enemies at level 100 over 100 Str points more than when at level 10. Bonjour, y'a t'il du level scaling dans ce jeu ou pas ???? Movie Reviews, Gaming News, and other random tidbits: http://www.geekologie.com/2008/08/25/ninja.jpg. 7248798 >>7248789 I don't think I've ever heard of anybody who liked level scaling. You're notably stronger than enemy Y, and are now fighting enemy Z instead. Level Scaling - How exactly should i play this game. Votre site de référence sur la saga Final Fantasy et toute l’actualité Square Enix This makes it feel like your improvements are meaningless because they don't improve your performance relative to the enemies at all. So if you're wanting to make things easier, draw/refine more spells and try things out to find the best junctions for each stat. to the first guy:. Leveling Up is not the way to get stronger. How important exactly is keeping low levels. Level Scaling Anonymous 01/02/21(Sat)22:32:28 No. No, GF's don't determine anything other than their own attacks and your abilities. 7248798. Not a bad game tough. Section G-Forces Final Fantasy 8 (FF8) GF associables. Part of the appeal of rpgs for me is being able to grind and destroy everyone with ease. < > Showing 1-14 of 14 comments . Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is. It is an important part in the calculation of damage, whether it be physical or magical. You are destined to live among the stars for all eternity. I will not be responsible for your stupidity.. GT: jimmyrockstar, PSN: testesbomb---. It's why you could spend 50+ hours before the ifrit mission prepping yourself for 80% of the game. It may sound strange, but actually leveling up your characters does more harm than good. 7249073. 26,303 Posts #7 • Sep 8, 2002. There is a huge misunderstanding about FF8 level scaling: you don't ever, ever need to evade battles, the game is perfectly balanced as is, you can even normally grind enemies that drop experience. How important exactly is keeping low levels? Enemies in this game level with you and gain ***much*** more stats than your characters do for those levels. None of these additions were anywhere near as big as level scaling, junctioning, and drawing magic though. Dischord will halve the target's level for the remainder of the battle. Or what do people get out of that? 100% Upvoted. The main problem I have with level scaling is that it makes it feel like you're not doing anything. The issues you mention regarding specifically FF8 have nothing at all to do with level scaling. FF8 Leveling and Difficulty question. GF non-associables. level gaining is easy, just find a nice place to level my favorate place is the forest near timber beside the lake. In fact, I think it could be used to great effect. Level is the single most influential statistic that affects the damage for nearly everything. The reason I think 8 doesn't get as much love as 7 isn't because it's a worse game but because the experience of playing it is so different from a traditional final fantasy that it pushed away some series fans. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated. save hide report. Do I want to make it easy though? "Forget all that. For example, the Elnoyle at high tier (level 30+) drops Energy Crystals, but mugging from it only yields Moon Stones, same as the low tier (level 1-19) version. >> Anonymous 01/02/21(Sat)22:34:35 No. Those will only make you strong and will not increase the strength of your enemies. In a game with level scaling, it's enemy Y all the time, and even when your stats have tripled, Y is (in theory) exactly as tough an obstacle as it was at the beginning. The ranks range from one to nine, the letter A representing ten. Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReport Ad. 7248838 >>7248830 It fucked me on the Adel fight. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Is there a mod or something that will get rid of that feature? Junctioning, and especially junctioning *well*, will have a big and appreciable effect on your strength and survivability in battle. Instead, 90% of your stats will come from having proper junctions. Fan Projects: Final Fantasy VIII-2, Final Fantasy XVI. Released in 1999, it is the eighth main installment in the Final Fantasy series. We clasped our hands, our hands in praise of a conquerors right to tyranny. Pallete/Model Swapping, on the other hand, causes a far more "normal" flow in difficulty. I have read a lot of people saying try to level up as little as possible and just junction to make the game a lot easier. Don't quite understand Zell side quest ... What would you like to see in a proper remake? I don't care how much any enemy in any game scales to be perfectly honest. I got so softlocked I had to start again. Level scaling makes no sense at all. Which magic junctions best to which stat? 7 comments. Changing color palette for a "different" stronger version of a mob is more honest than lv scaling. Triple Triad is played on a three-by-three (3x3) square grid of blank spaces where the cards will be placed. Or you could spend 15 minutes before the Timber mission prepping yourself for 80% of the game. Like in FFX, sure the enemies are just recolours of each other (although they do pick up some new tricks occasionally), but that allows it to feel like you're making progress. Level Scaling in FFVII « previous next » Print; Pages: [1] Author Topic: Level Scaling in FFVII (Read 3497 times) vega900. you do a NO-leveling-playthrough. - Topic Level scaling ou pas du 05-06-2014 19:09:00 sur les forums de jeuxvideo.com Which magic junctions best to which stat? Les Guardian Forces, ou G-Forces sont à la base de la puissance des personnages dans Final Fantasy 8. >> Anonymous Sat Jan 2 23:43:17 2021 No. FF8 is a game where your character level can remain static but everything around you grows ever-more ridiculous – characters clambering to have thousands of … (SPOILERS). >> Anonymous Sat Jan 2 22:42:56 2021 No. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. 8 sucked for al lot of other reasons besides that. The end result is that you either spend an eternity grinding spels or playing Triple Triad to break the game, or it will break you. Sénar cucu, perso tout droit sorti d’un sitcom française AB production sans charisme et complétement creu, level-scaling et systeme de combat bancal. Vagal. - Getting at level 100 only raises your stats 20-40 points the most. Careful and precise junctioning and ability equipping is the key to being effective in battles. I think i understood the junction system... As i understand it GFs only determine what stat slots become available to junction magic to, give you specific abilities and give you specific boosts... Or do specific GFs also determine how strong diferent spells would be (like Ifrit -> fire based spells)? Due to the level scaling system, most enemies actually give worse items when mugged instead of defeating them normally and obtaining item drops. Level Scaling in and of itself is not a massive problem. Enfin le conseil le plus important, ne faites pas de level up, évitez les ennemis qui rapportent trop d'expérience. Final Fantasy VIII is a role-playing video game developed and published by Square for the PlayStation console. Sry but to me FF8 is hard because at that time i dunno how to use the junction system and didn't upgrade my weapon till i beat the game only with some low level GF Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReport Ad. The top rig… I loved the level scaling in ff8. 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